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bbcarCan somone tell a little about the wonder bar,and who makes it. Also does anyone know what 3.5 translates to in cubic inches.
Thanks Barry
ed monahanBarry, I cannot remember the exact size of the engine but I think it is around 310 cu. in. Someone will correct that, I am sure. That is approx.
Larry Lord, who owns a Prowler made the Wonder Bar. He owns a company in Cal. and is an OLD racer, lol. It works. I put one on my 99 Red and ran it thru the road course up in Canada. I could tell a difference. Look in group purchases for more info.
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This message has been edited by ed monahan on 08-01-2004 at 02:50 AM

Kraut3.5 liters equals 213.5 cubic inches.
Bcoffman Gray Ghost
quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
Barry, I cannot remember the exact size of the engine but I think it is around 310 cu. in. Someone will correct that, I am sure. That is approx.
Larry Lord, who owns a Prowler made the Wonder Bar. He owns a company in Cal. and is an OLD racer, lol. It works. I put one on my 99 Red and ran it thru the road course up in Canada. I could tell a difference. Look in group purchases for more info.
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I thought that Ford's 5.0 liter is a 302 cu. in.

CTProwlerI put my wonder Bar on before canada Trip also,It makes a difference!

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GRROWL
quote:
Originally posted by Bcoffman Gray Ghost:
I thought that Ford's 5.0 liter is a 302 cu. in.

5,000 * .3937 * .3937 *.3937 = 305.117

I would guess that 302 was exact and that 5 liter would be approximate. Someone would have to figure out the bore and stroke to confirm.

-GRROWL

GRROWL
quote:
Originally posted by Kraut:
3.5 liters equals 213.5 cubic inches.

Confirming Kraut:

3,500 *.3937 *.3937 *.3937 = 213.58 cu. in.

obi-wanTypically in car land talk these engines are 214 cu. in. (they round up) and I have herd them referred to as 215 cu. in. now that's really rounding up. Hope I helped, Obi-Wan
bbcarThanks for the info.
first job done was lower ball joints,
second was removing tailpipe baffels,
Hint on these is after you remove rivits
and grab with vise grips take a second
vise grips and twist as you pull. mine slid
out very easily, they were not going to come
out with a straight pull.
chrome and black shift knob on order.
already have extra set of center caps.
Now looking into wonder bar.
Barry
CJJust out of curiousity, I have a 99 and an 02. Would it make the same "difference" for the 99 and the 02, considering the 02 suspension is already different than the 99?
CTProwlerCJ according to what people tell me it will do more for the 99. It makes a difference on my 02 so i would try it first on your 99 and see what you think.

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ed monahanCJ, I wondered that too so I went with the 99 for starters. I don't know the answer. Sorry about the wrong info on the cu in conversion, bbcar.
Larry LordA Wonder Bar is a direct bolt in replacement for the stock stabilizer bar that offers an amazing difference in your Prowler’s ride quality.
By utilizing a smaller diameter and hollow tube, the Wonder Bar allows your front wheels to operate more independently and smooth out your ride. The Wonder Bar has less torsional strength than the stock stabilizer bar and gives a noticeable difference in ride quality over rough road surfaces or when one wheel hits a pothole or bump.
Your Prowler’s effective spring rates are not compromised for straight line driving but are lessened while one wheel reacts independently of the other or during cornering or over bumps.
You will notice a very slight increase in body roll during hard cornering but will also notice a marked increase in front traction.

Do not confuse the Wonder Bar with any of the many aftermarket braces that others have offered for the Prowlers.
· A brace is just that. It’s a brace to help keep your frame from flexing.
· A Wonder Bar is a direct bolt-in replacement for your front stabilizer bar.
Stabilizer bars are also often referred to as anti-roll bars or sway bars and are an integral part of you car's suspension.
Major Causes of UNDERSTEER a.k.a. PUSH
Too large front bar vs. rear sway bar
Too small front tires or narrow rim width
Too stiff front springs
Low front tire pressure
Oversize rear tires

The Wonder Bar will not only smooth your ride but it will also help to make your car handle better.

This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 08-02-2004 at 09:17 AM

Larry Lord
quote:
Originally posted by CJ:
Just out of curiousity, I have a 99 and an 02. Would it make the same "difference" for the 99 and the 02, considering the 02 suspension is already different than the 99?

There will be more slightly more ride improvement with a 99 or earlier but there is still a major difference even on the later cars.

Since the same stock stabilizer bar is used for both early and late cars, there is still an amazing difference in ride quality when the Wonder Bar is installed on a later model car.

CJ,
Maybe when you get yours, you can talk Bob into trying it on each car to test the differences between the years?

This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 08-02-2004 at 09:22 AM

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